Why Shareaza will currently not be accepted.

[Porkster]

/me enters this thread with some trepidation.

Lets face it, piracy has made/benefited the computer industry.

If it wasn't for piracy, microsoft wouldn't be where they are now, maybe the mac would be the main business computer, most home users wouldn't bother to own a computer.

It is natural law of nature to copy good ideas or reproduce items if they can be, and with the best techniques available. Companies/buniesses have enforced their want for protection on what shouldn't be in law.

There is plenty of room for someone to make money off items if they are priced well and markets better, if pircacy was legal.

I don't have a problem with piracy as you can read above, it's just avoiding others that have the power to ruin your life by enforcing stupid laws for greedy business. DC to me is just too out there in its server location info, like whirlpool adverts. Also there was other minor reasons why I left DC.

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[Phil]

DC to me is just too out there in its server location info, like whirlpool adverts. Also there was other minor reasons why I left DC.

The tashub is only on whirlpool in the P2P FAQ - and I have asked for it to be removed from that. The creator replied saying he no longer updates it, so there isnt anything I can do about that. It isnt mentioned anywhere else afaik.

[S. Traaken]

things like the freebsd source repository is avalible as free data. and that was a 1.8gb inital download and is about 5meg of content per night.

Out of curiosity, where would I find this stuff?

[Porkster]

things like the freebsd source repository is avalible as free data. and that was a 1.8gb inital download and is about 5meg of content per night.

Out of curiosity, where would I find this stuff?

[url]ftp.netspace.con.au[/url] <very behind in versions and alternatives.

besides what Netfish said, the irony is that Telstra is an offical mirror of most Linux OS projects and have free uplaods to their customers of these ISO's.

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[Net_Fish]

[url]ftp.netspace.con.au[/url] <very behind in versions and alternatives.

besides what Netfish said, the irony is that Telstra is an offical mirror of most Linux OS projects and have free uplaods to their customers of these ISO's.

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Actually no.
planetmirror.com and mirror.aarnet.edu.au are the major 'official' mirrors in Australia. Telstra mearly provides a content service for their customers which wouldn't be needed if they weren't so tight with their data limits.

I can't say I've even bothered looking at the netspace FTP server lately. I usualy get the FBSD mini iso that i need over night from planet mirror, it's only 300 or so meg. If I really need to do an install right there and then I'll use a network install. I'm not anti-data-use and I have the 8gb plan so I have room to move. On an average month I just don't use it all.

But then I can also get the complete 4 CD set of FreeBSD on any iMac in the School of Computing, all I need to do is feed it the CD-R's. Saves me 2.4GB of data downloads and the throughput is a hell of a lot higher.

4x648meg isos to download ~6 hours on 256, ~3 hours on 512 each so 24 hours on 256k or 12 hours on 512k

4x648meg cds to burn @ 16x ~10mins/disk so 40mins to burn them, 20 mins each way in the car to uni, 2 hours to transfer 4 isos, not a bad job if i do say so myself

Hell it would be faster to drive from burnie to hobart, burn the cds and drive back. (may not be true for 1500) Though I wouldn't want to see the fuel bill

(SoC keeps the isos for Redhat, Mandrake, Debian, FreeBSD, Koopnix and a couple of other OSS Applications on the hard disks of the iMacs for any SoC student to burn if they want them, well at least in Hobart).

And I have told S.Taarken where the CVS repository is availble. There is a 'slight' difference between a CVS repository and a ISO repository. One is a complete record of FreeBSD and every change it's ever had since 2.0 the other is a snapshot of the source tree at a point in time that has been put on a CD in binary form for distribution.

[Porkster]

But then I can also get the complete 4 CD set of FreeBSD on any iMac in the School of Computing, all I need to do is feed it the CD-R's. Saves me 2.4GB of data downloads and the throughput is a hell of a lot higher.

You forgot to say why you wouldn't be better on Telstra?

$ or Telstra better pings and service quality?

For me I'm moving to a DSL provider that has a highler level the tech users and people at the forefront of computing, that isn't Netspace.

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[Net_Fish]

But then I can also get the complete 4 CD set of FreeBSD on any iMac in the School of Computing, all I need to do is feed it the CD-R's. Saves me 2.4GB of data downloads and the throughput is a hell of a lot higher.

You forgot to say why you wouldn't be better on Telstra?

$ or Telstra better pings and service quality?

For me I'm moving to a DSL provider that has a highler level the tech users and people at the forefront of computing, that isn't Netspace.

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If you can't work out why I'm not using telstra then prehaps you should disconnect from the internet now and sell all your computer equipment.

1. Price / Quantity ratio shot to hell
2. Service levels are questionable, I spent 18 months with them when they were the only DSL provider in the country. I know how bad their service is and can be.
3. Lack of Shaping / Flat rate options.
4. Charge for uploads
5. A Usage meter that spends more time not working than it does working.
6. They spend too much on 'content' and not enough on 'service' imho

For the second part of your statement I can barely understand what you're trying to say.

[Anach]

as former Testra ADSL customer. i agree.

its not worth the 50ms ping advantage in games to go with them. you may as well throw your money out the window.